Mike and Ryan are a duo from Canada who run the Instagram page, Strange Life Labs, which is a collaboration between fishkeeping and reptile keeping. Mike focuses on reptiles while Ryan focuses his energy on fishkeeping. In the episode, we discuss how the two hobbies interact with each other, what reptile keepers can learn from fish keepers and visa-versa as well as how to maintain a balanced and sustainable animal room. Mike discusses which reptile species he works with including the pros and cons of the Phelsuma species he keeps and breeds and why he believes gargoyle geckos are a more attractive pet option over crested geckos. Ryan discusses his beautiful planted community aquarium, how he maintains it, and which fish species would be best for new keepers with a reptile husbandry background.

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